- GEO is the new SEO: Generative Engine Optimization focuses on how AI systems synthesize brand info, not how Google ranks pages.
- Mentions > Links: Brand mentions across trusted sites now correlate more with AI visibility than traditional backlinks.
- Syndication still works: Republished and naturally re-written stories amplify brand authority across LLM training data.
- AI scales, humans connect: Fractl uses 100+ agents to automate research and pitching—but success still relies on personalized, human outreach.
- Diversify beyond Google: Fractl sees growing value in Reddit, niche publishers, and social—LLMs reward depth of expertise over broad reach.
I finally had a chance to interview one of my favorite voices in the digital PR game, Fractl’s co-founder, Kelsey Libert. During my time at Siege Media, Fractl was always one of our most inspiring competitors. The work they’ve produced over the years, and the strategies Kelsey has spearheaded, are top-notch. My favorite is Porch’s Food Fights survey (never put pineapple on pizza!)
We had a chance to really dig into what AI means for digital PR strategies, talk about some new technologies—like Fractl’s AI Agents —and break down new data from Kelsey’s talks, which I’ll link to in the resources section.
Check it out!

Resources Mentioned
How AI is reshaping SEO: Challenges, opportunities, and brand strategies for 2025
Kelsey’s speaker deck from Brighton SEO
Timestamps
00:00 – Introduction to AI and SEO
02:52 – Understanding Generative Engine Optimization (GEO)
05:47 – The Role of Links in the New Landscape
08:27 – Digital PR Strategies in the Age of AI
11:12 – Building Relationships with Journalists
14:05 – Navigating Google Search Frustrations
18:56 – Expanding Beyond Google: Multi-Channel Strategies
21:32 – Leveraging AI for Content Syndication
27:32 – Key Metrics for Tracking Performance
32:11 – The Future of Niche Content in LLMs